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When I was a seminarian in Rome
« on: March 14, 2018, 10:48:13 AM »
Just a quick one. The excerpt is self explanatory. When I was a seminarian in Rome, some of my classmates were of such various oriental catholic rites who had the fiancees around and got married to them before diaconate. Those of us of the Latin rite maintained our own vocations without any bias. It's very much at home in the Catholic world. Oriental married catholic priesthood is even older than celibate rites as ecclesiastical ordering.

It's only secundum esse that you can say that celibate priesthood is older because Jesus Christ Himself who Alone is the Eternal High Priest isn't married. All of us are only sacramentalizing. Since He Himself raised matrimony to the level of sacrament, hence as one of the seven means by which entrance into heaven is granted, you wouldn't expect a sacrament to oppose another. Matrimony posts to heaven.



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When I was a seminarian in Rome
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Re: When I was a seminarian in Rome
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2018, 10:49:11 AM »
 Holy Orders posts to heaven. Holy Orders plus Matrimony wouldn't produce fireworks, it's in fact perfect. Yet, a more perfect analogy is celibate priesthood, first contemplated as disciplinary, but with profounder leanings on the very Person, and Priestly Identity of the Summum Pontifex, Jesus Christ, the celibate qua tale.

So much so that even in the Oriental Rites where one person can receive both Sacraments, Matrimony must be already in place before the Holy Orders otherwise it's irreversible. Once in Holy Orders, no matrimony is permitted, unless one is first defrocked. In the Oriental Rite too, no married priest can ever become Bishop. Only unmarried priests can become Bishops. Bishop Faddoul here above mentioned is not married. That tells you that.

They also know how dear and near celibate priesthood is to the Lord Jesus Christ Himself. While none of the Sacraments cheapens or antagonizes the other, yet each occupies its appropriate hierarchical position.
Much more to say, but not intending to make it neither long nor merely academic with theological address, permit me to say one last thing for now.


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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2018, 10:49:54 AM »
It concerns the very last submission up here that married priests can now roam about in our Dioceses to celebrate the Eucharist for us. That was sounding but like  some false hymn of triumphalism. When I was in Rome, no catholic priest of a specific rite has right to celebrate the Eucharist in another Catholic Church of another rite without an EXPLICIT WRITTEN CANONICAL PERMISSION of the Local Ordinaries, requesting and requested. Seminarians of Siromalabarese Rite in my College were not even ordained in our college chapel which is of the Roman rite. They would always go to their Church right there in the city of Rome for their ordination. For the five years I was in college, only once was an eparch allowed to carry out a rite of ordination of two of his seminarians in our college. Seminarians of the Latin Rite in that promotion were ordained on a different date.


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Re: When I was a seminarian in Rome
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2018, 10:50:30 AM »
N.B.
1. The Catholic Church is so so rich.
2. It's a holy pride to be a convinced Catholic.
3. I have sometimes participated in the Eucharist of Oriental Rites. It can be so so so fascinating for one count or the other. I just love their incensing. It transports me.
4. Knowing other realities have made me to fall more in love with the Latin Rite.
5. Help your neighbour, less privileged with info, not to pick scandal at this novelty in the Nigeria Catholic Church because Jesus Christ the Master bu omiminimeomimi.



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